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Nickhimself · Oct 10, 2006, 06:15 AM // 06:15

Personally, i'm getting sick and tired of the media portraying every single game as the reason behind all youth violence. It was the same with music before online gaming became as popular as it is today.

We need to do something about this B.S. The media needs to understand that the people that do stupid shit like kill their high school bully isn't because they were kicked out of a guild in WoW, or got their account hacked. It's not because of Counter-Strike that kids are shot by other kids. It's not because of MMO's that kids go nuts and try to commit suicide.

None of these blatantly biased views are truly reflecting the lives of these kids. More in-depth research shows that a lot of these kids are mentally unstable to begin with. This needs to be addressed more-so than the fact that the kid locked himself in his room and played games all night long to escape the fact that he can't get voices out of his head.

I think that all gamers should unite together and start a coalition against these types of ridiculous statements. We need to stand up for ourselves and prove to the world that we aren't creating murderers and rapists through gaming, it's not only hurting our favorite past-times, but it's hurting some people in real life (being ostrasized at school / public events for being a gamer and not being a jock or whatever else kids are picking on each other for these days).

Why not make a front for our gaming rights? Why be burdened by the medias abuse any longer? It's gotten so far as to cause cities / states / coutries to put limits or out-right bans on certain games. This is ridiculous. I completely agree that someone who can't see a rated R movie shouldn't be allowed to play a bloody and violent game, but restricing an entire area of this entertainment is ridiculous.

Opeth11 · Oct 10, 2006, 06:40 AM // 06:40

I bet that if we unite together, they will think that the idea of forming a guild has sunken into our heads, and that we are all crazy.

Seissor · Oct 10, 2006, 07:25 AM // 07:25

Games are todays scapegoat. In the 90's it was TV, in the 80's music. And im sure before that it was books who were to blame.

Strangely enough back in the dark ages when people where killed on a whim, there was no videogames.

Opeth11 · Oct 10, 2006, 07:31 AM // 07:31

They blamed it on the rocks back then. Brush up on your history ^_^

Cebe · Oct 10, 2006, 07:32 AM // 07:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seissor

Games are todays scapegoat. In the 90's it was TV, in the 80's music. And im sure before that it was books who were to blame.

Quite...next century it'll be..."Don't you go to school in one of those new fangled teleporters, Jimmy....They ROT YOUR BRAIN!"

We'll just have to ride it out I guess...cause it is absolute rubbish...I played Goldeneye on the N64 for YEARS and NEVER got the urge to go out and kill someone.

I think a lot of people just don't actually understand new technology and entertainment media. I've been trying for years to get my parents to understand why I play PC games and I think they may finally be beginning to understand.

Vermilion Okeanos · Oct 10, 2006, 07:33 AM // 07:33

And further back then, it was witches. Human never change, people are still as dumb as ever; hence, history repeats itself, with a different form.

[scare children]
If you want more similarities of history; back then the biggest nation limit the numbers of navy each country can have, now they limit nuclear test. Japan was angrily surpressed back then, and led to WWII; N. Korea are now surpressed, will it lead to Nuclear holocaust? We will see. [/scare children]

Thallandor · Oct 10, 2006, 07:57 AM // 07:57

I blame religious groups for the propaganda.

As with the OP, its very likely those kids that went postal were mentally unstable to begin with and playing games in general provides them with the distraction and settles them who perhaps otherwise would be loud, restless and unstable at home or in school.

Perhaps critics stemming from religious group would like to prove against this by taking in mentally unstable and weak willed individuals and force feed them both visual and audio religous ideals for extended period of time and see if they exhibit the same violence tendencies like shooting school bullies and their classmates....

Oh wait i forgot, its already happening! Its called TERRORISM! and they use bombs and WMDs. Lets ban some religion in some states to protect our citizens!!11

Sometimes the system makes a mockery of itself just to please/distract the ignorant majority of the population, who like like a flock of sheeps are ready to believe and set blame on the next most convenient excuse rather than to address the real problem.

Just another reason why i dont watch the crap on the tele any more.

Edit for grammar. Thanks Opeth11 for pointing it out.

Omega_2005 · Oct 10, 2006, 08:01 AM // 08:01

Hmm, if we all made a super-Kurzick and super-Luxon alliance, then maybe they can back off!

personally, whatever you say to the media, you'll just get crap thrown back at you, in the wrong words. A good example of this was Season 2-3 of Extras. Andy Millman told the truth to the journalist and then he reads a screwed up version of it the very next day!

Down with Rupert Murdoch's crap! ...but I guess they won't listen. EVER.

Vermilion Okeanos · Oct 10, 2006, 08:03 AM // 08:03

Religion or no religion, it make no difference.

A person going to be good or bad is still depended on who it is.

Not everyone who play videogames go into school shooting, nor do every religious groups spread propaganda.

XvArchonvX · Oct 10, 2006, 11:37 AM // 11:37

I honestly haven't seen this debate in the media for a long time. However this debate just boils down to a simple difference between people imho. This difference is based on the causation people assume when they see two correlated events. The correlation at hand here would be between the act of commiting a violent crime and playing a violent video game.

While many may argue that violent games don't cause violent actions, it remains a safe assumption to say that a person who commits violent crimes is more likely to be one that plays violent video games than a person who has been involved in little to no violent action.

The question then lies in whether you assume the causation for this correlation to be the result of the video game making the person turn violent or simply the result of violent people preferring to play violent video games over non-violent ones.

Personally, I find the latter of the generalizations to seem more realistic, but one must bear in mind that there are almost an infinite number of factors that push one to the edge of causing harm or to choose a video game, and to assume that there is only one that is true in all cases is most certainly an oversimplification that overlies fallacy.

Warrior Of The Toon · Oct 10, 2006, 11:44 AM // 11:44

The games don't make psychopathic mass murderers, they just sometimes nurture them. But to be honest - would you prefer the next pyscho to go into the real world and kill 20 people, or satisfy his fantasies on a game, and thus not carry them out in real life ever, or at least delay them?

LadyNilene · Oct 10, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54

Will someone think of the children??? Just please think of the children!- Mrs. Lovejoy

Jeremy Untouchable · Oct 10, 2006, 02:41 PM // 14:41

Video games can desensitize people to things. I however dont care if some kid gos on a rampage and kills a town full of grawls

Giga Strike · Oct 10, 2006, 05:57 PM // 17:57

/signed

adults are just scared and confused with video games, so they want us to stop playing them. in reality, video games are just there so that ppl can do things that they normally wouldn't be able or allowed to do without consequence.

and in the 80s i think the media blamed a kid's bad behavior on the parents not caring for them enough.

Franco · Oct 10, 2006, 06:58 PM // 18:58

lol, Guildwars Save the Nation. Oh Hail All Mighty Guildwars *sings*

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Sir Skullcrasher · Oct 10, 2006, 10:22 PM // 22:22

I can't believe we didn't think about this idea earlier!

Opeth11 · Oct 10, 2006, 10:42 PM // 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos

[scare children]
If you want more similarities of history; back then the biggest nation limit the numbers of navy each country can have, now they limit nuclear test. Japan was angrily surpressed back then, and led to WWII; N. Korea are now surpressed, will it lead to Nuclear holocaust? We will see. [/scare children]

Children aren't the only ones afraid of nuclear holocausts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallandor

Edit for grammer.

It's grammar.

Giga Strike · Oct 10, 2006, 11:22 PM // 23:22

ohhh, u got owned Thallandor!

Eugaet · Oct 11, 2006, 12:16 AM // 00:16

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The Real Roy Keane · Oct 11, 2006, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Articles citing gaming as the reason for societies woes are actually pretty rare. I think gamers would just like to think their hobby is higher profile than it actually is..